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I've come to this quite late, but I might as well set out some of my own views, for the record. To start off, though, Andrew at Wongablog has an excellent post on the Archbishops of York and Canterbury's defence of "individual conscience" in matters of sexuality-based discrimination. Here's a stand-out sentence:
Iâm not criticising her [Ruth Kelly] because of her faith affiliation, Iâm criticising her because her arguments make no sense. [...] But I wouldnât say sheâs not fit to hold public office - she gives every impression of being a very intelligent and competent woman, itâs just that the evidence seems to suggest she has a blind spot when it comes to faith-related matters.I might have summarised the issue as simply as this:
Treating people differently on the sole basis of their sexual orientation is a clear breach of universal human rights. End of story.A couple of supplementary points, though. Given that there are no limits on faith, and no mechanism through which they can be evaluated conclusively (by definition), it should be obvious that we cannot accept one faith-based argument without accepting all such arguments, including contradictory ones. So until the various Churches decide to use moral, or practical arguments (based upon evidence), or else insist upon an individual's general right to discriminate as their conscience demands, their call for individual consciences to trump our moral principles in particular cases, is without any merit whatsoever. What's particularly pitiful is that the Archbishops are either unwilling or unable to use the teachings of their own religion to bolster their case, so meek are they. Aware that none of the above strategies can extricate them from their impossible position, they resort to sophistry in an attempt to steal the argument, covering their backs to avoid direct criticism, perhaps hoping the political heat might tell on ministers. What reasonable people they are - how cold we must be:
Those discussions have been conducted in good faith, in mutual respect and with an appropriate level of confidence on all sides. [...] As you approach the final phase of what has, until very recently, been a careful and respectful consideration [...]I'm ashamed to say that I consulted Nick Robinson's blog for the "talk among the backbenches", and found something almost as ludicrous as the Archbishops' statements (my emphasis):
[...] Allow me to delicately suggest, however, that the attitudes being displayed now towards Catholics in public life must feel to them like a form of prejudice and discrimination.Saints preserve us! We really should display this more prominently:

Labels: discrimination, religion, sophistry
If Facebook is your thing, you might like to join the Labour Bloggers group I've just set up.
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Just a reminder, this will take place on Thursday, January 25th in London.
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I was going to post about this anyway, but Tom Miller's comment on my Iraqi Oil post gave the plan some added impetus.
If everyone capable of benefiting from the alternative economy participates in it, and it makes full and efficient use of the resources already available to them, eventually we'll have a society where most of what the average person consumes is produced in a network of self-employed or worker-owned production, and the owning classes are left with large tracts of land and understaffed factories that are almost useless to them because it's so hard to hire labor except at an unprofitable price. At that point, the correlation of forces will have shifted until the capitalists and landlords are islands in a mutualist sea--and their land and factories will be the last thing to fall, just like the U.S Embassy in Saigon.And much more. I don't agree with all of it, but it offers a model of economic empowerment that no amount of grant or subsidy can conjure up.
Labels: Capitalism, Chavez, economics, Mutualism, nationalism
Few arguments are more likely to kill an intelligent conversation on world politics than the one that sets out that the toppling of Saddam Hussein was "all about oil", especially as to retort with a political (whether well-, or poorly-intentioned; well-, or poorly thought-out) or moral argument is to be derided as hopelessly naive. Also popular is what I would call the "blood and oil" argument, namely that a country's natural resources are for the sole "use" of that country's inhabitants, and that the involvement of foreigners (especially Westerners) can be construed as "raping" a country's land/assets, etc. Of course there's an environmental case for leaving natural resources where they are, but generally when we have an asset we try to use it, extracting from it the greatest possible economic value we can. Given that we can't drink oil, or build houses out of it, we can either refine it ourselves, or sell it to someone who can do a better job, if they'll make us more money, cause less waste or damage in doing so, invest in local facilities, recruit and train local workers, and so on.
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to not allow the privatisation of Iraqi oil, against the wishes of the Iraqi people.The key point is "the wishes of the Iraqi people", which is why you should consider signing this one. Here's a back-of-an-envelope order of policy-making precedence:
Labels: economics, Iraq, nationalism, Oil
Warning: this post contains criticism of Jon Cruddas. One of the difficulties that arises when spreading the writing of a post across
Everything anyone remotely likely to vote Labour don't like about politics today, and any favoured policy from the past that is no longer in current use, for whatever reason.Sorry, but anyone who insists upon using terms like "core" voters (no less silly a term than "swing" voters), and "Labour values" is being abstruse, whether deliberately, or otherwise. It denies potential voters the opportunity to judge candidates and parties on the basis of the policies they might actually carry out, and the chance to judge the accuracy, applicability, plausibility, and likelihood of success of those policies. Sure, there's no General Election in the offing, but there's no harm in a politician who wants to be remembered for their policies to act like there is.
Too often the second-term Labour government ... [arrived] at policies such as differential top-up fees that not only owed more to free-market dogma than our traditional values but were also deeply unpopular among swing voters.This is unhelpful in several ways. The need to address higher-education funding dates back to substantially before 2001, with several different funding/fees options on the table, and this need was felt within the Labour Party just as much as elsewhere, so it's hardly accurate to claim the current policy just materialised. And, hang on, why would a government overly concerned with swing voters stick to a policy that, so it is claimed, fails to deliver those middle class votes? Could it be that there was an impulse behind the policy that Jon's analysis fails to spot?
The idea that we need lectures from Rammell, the minister for top-up fees, on winning back aspirant voters frankly beggars belief.We could, of course, turn that around and say:
The idea that we need lectures from Cruddas, the Member of Parliament for Dagenham, on winning back "traditional" voters frankly beggars belief.In fact, that's pretty generous: Rammell, after all, was tarred with "minister for top-up fees"; he no more "lectures" than Jon does (though I've already stated that I strongly dislike the inferences of Rammell and Byrne's piece); and besides, Rammell didn't - to my knowledge - make any claims about the popularity of the introduction of (deferred) higher education fees, nor should that be a priority for any Education Minister.
They think this is modern, but actually today's voters are more likely to respond to active, campaigning parties that are properly rooted in their local communities.... insofar as anyone disagrees with that. The statement isn't wrong, or harmful, it's just lost its value through overuse. Saying it might meet our fairly low expectations, but showing that you have a unique solution, or a unique ability to achieve an existing solution, is what will restore value to the fine sentiments.
Labels: Bill Rammell, fees, Jon Cruddas, Labour, Liam Byrne, markets, poverty, voters
Could have been a contender has alerted me to the fact that the road pricing (or "travel tax" - whatever) e-petition at the Downing Street site has attracted a bit of interest, with the number of signers now over 300,000 (something like 50,000 have been added in the past day, if you think that's credible). The petition's statement is as follows:
The idea of tracking every vehicle at all times is sinister and wrong. Road pricing is already here with the high level of taxation on fuel. The more you travel - the more tax you pay.Let me summarise why the petition is flawed, and the 300,000 people wrong to waste precious Government bandwidth, starting with the principle of road pricing.
It will be an unfair tax on those who live apart from families and poorer people who will not be able to afford the high monthly costs.
Please Mr Blair - forget about road pricing and concentrate on improving our roads to reduce congestion.
The idea of tracking every vehicle at all times is sinister and wrong.Well it's patently not wrong - pricing, whether it's applied nationally using tracking, or implemented in (hopefully more and more) cities, solves a problem that causes jams, accidents, pollution, has serious health implications, and damages our economy. There's nothing inherently sinister about tracking by GPRS, if this kind of tracking is even required, and if you use your free choice to start your engine. It could be sinister if run by a sinister Government (and who says it has to be?), in which case you may have more worries than this one.
Road pricing is already here with the high level of taxation on fuel. The more you travel - the more tax you pay.I've already shown this is wrong. It only covers one cost of driving - and besides, if drivers were charged the full social cost, the need for the Government to charge fuel duty would be lessened - and ignores the fact that jams can be extremely costly even though the distance travelled can be very short. Needless to say it doesn't answer the question of why non-drivers must pay the price of polluted air, of having our cities clogged with traffic, and of being run over by drivers, whether drunk, drugged, speeding, or just unlucky (to say nothing of the victim).
It will be an unfair tax on those who live apart from families and poorer people who will not be able to afford the high monthly costs.I must say that I did make allowance for this in my earlier piece on carbon trading, where I argued that poor people with polluting vehicles would be penalised by road pricing, on the basis of their relative inability to sell/replace the vehicle, and suggested that the Government compensate the poor prior to launching such a scheme. On the other hand, I happened to reach the chapter in the Undercover Economist that has a nice graph (admittedly a few years old) that clearly shows that in the UK - in clear contrast to the USA - the proportion of income spent on fuel increases with income, rather than decreases, therefore road pricing (the fuel component, at the very least) would in itself redistribute money towards the poor, making a compensation scheme unnecessary.
Please Mr Blair - forget about road pricing and concentrate on improving our roads to reduce congestion.I think the credibility of the petitioners is pretty threadbare by now, but we can add a veiled threat, and a policy suggestion which - when implemented on its own - has been thoroughly discredited. There's absolutely no reason why road improvement could not take place alongside, and without conflicting with road pricing. Therefore to suggest the two policies are in opposition is illogical and diversionary, along the lines of "How can you even think of doing
Labels: carbon, economics, pollution, road pricing, stealth taxes
Firstly, apologies for a post about tea earning undue publicity at the top of this blog over the past two days. I can't promise there's any more original thought in this post either, as the recent controversy about Ruth Kelly's son being sent to a school in the private sector covers more issues than I'm prepared/competent to sum up in one single post.
Labels: choice, education, Ruth Kelly
Forget secularism, and forget hip priests, the BBC can exclusively reveal the true cause of the decline in Christian worship, and the loss of respect for its institutions:

Bill Gorman, chairman of the Tea Council, also said the study was "another very positive piece of research for tea as it's clear that the researchers recognise that tea has significant health effects".This representative of a producer group obviously isn't afraid to put his organisation's credibility on the line:
The researchers tested the effects of tea in 16 humans and on rat tissue.
Labels: religion, statistics, Tea
A Euston Manifesto blog has been set up - it consists of short posts intermingled with introductions and links to other posts created by Manifesto signers, on a broad range of subjects.
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Here are two possibilities: firstly I might be genuinely curious for an answer, and I might demonstrate that with evidence of my own thought and research.
The many Brighton/Hove/Portslade bloggers out there (I can think of 7 leftish political ones off the top of my head) might be interested in the upcoming Brighton Bloggers meetup on Tuesday 23rd. I attended my first in Summer 2004 (under a different moniker) and will be going to this one, hopefully with a few guests.
Labels: Brighton Bloggers, Labour bloggers, London, pubs
News from the front in the War Against
There's an aspiring totalitarianism in Britain which is brilliantly disguised. It's disguised because the would-be dictators - and there are many of them - all pretend to be more tolerant than thou. They hide alongside the anti-racists, the anti-homophobes and anti-sexists. But what they are really against is something very different. They - call them secular fundamentalists - are anti-God, and what they really want is the eradication of religion, and all believers, from the face of the earth.It's so brilliantly disguised that author, Tobias Jones, is unable to provide the slightest bit of evidence to support his claims. Honestly, I've read it all, and it's pure conjecture - like The Evening Standard for pseuds:
There's also the fact that we live in a cultural milieu dominated by postmodernism.It's a fact, so it's no use you denying it. The brilliance of the disguise is probably why you can't see that this is true.
These new militants, however, believe themselves to be the only arbiters of taste; they want to eradicate the root and cause. They will dictate what you can wear and what you can say. That, after all, is what totalitarians do.Oh shut up already. I think the message is clear: stay away from CiF if you want to hear thoughtful people discussing moral or religious issues.
Labels: Comment is Free, fisking, pseuds, religion, secularism
Says the Don (who also links to several other critiques), Compass Chair, Neal Lawson, is "a man with a track record of inept and counter-productive support of a range of good causes". The latest mission: using your own ignorance of economics and philosophy, and reluctance to engage with other's arguments, erect a straw man, and call him The Political System. Then, contrarian, demolish with whatever argument you fancy: here, the lukewarm platitudes of priests.
Where do we get moral leadership from today? As we pick up the pieces of another swiped out festive season it's a fitting question. Is there something more to life than the endless cycle of overconsumption? How can the Iraq war or exorbitant city bonuses be justified? Increasingly it is our religious rather than political leaders who attempt to answer these difficult and pressing questions.The mainstream media in this country undoubtedly trivialises politics in the UK, but the world is full of moral guidance (leadership, if you must): throughout our lives we watch, listen to, and read about the activities of people ranging from family members, to schoolteachers, businesspeople, politicians, and people with many different points of view and ideology, and we respond to what we take to be the positive and negative consequences of those actions, adapting towards what we hope to be 'the good life'. It's central to Lawson's argument that humanity is incapable of any such growth; without the moral leadership - and Lawson clearly has specific moral leadership in mind - the result is disaster. After all, what else could "overconsumption" mean? It's impossible to prove either way, it can be defined any way Neal likes, it sounds bad, and it plays on our guilt, so it's an essential part of the vocabulary for any budding puritan.
Our politicians have forgotten that power and principle are two sides of the same coin. Politics has stopped being a different vision of the good society and is instead a job for technocrats and for self-proclaimed rationalists.To suggest that those involved in politics aren't interested in visions of a good society is a pretty ignorant comment for someone loosely involved with the blogosphere, and who must encounter individual politicians and political bloggers frequently. Neal might have a point if he has "managerialism" in his sights, but substituting the idea that unelected religious teachers should "lead and motivate the nation", in place of elected politicians doing so, hardly seems an attractive one, even if you believe that people have to be led. The fact that individuals, companies, or collectives, could be empowered to tackle society's problems in a more decentralised way seems hardly to have been considered. Now who's out of touch?
Labels: Compass, consumerism, Iraq, liberalism, rationalism, religion
I've left this a bit too long, but here are the 53 blogs (including 5 MPs) that have been added to B4L since I last published a list. The current total is 360. They appear in reverse order of discovery/submission, and descriptions appear where one was supplied, or else I found a bit of text that seemed like a good summary:
Labels: Labour bloggers, MPs
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I should read the Drink Soaked Trots more; here's a great article from Eric (via Paulie), though sadly it may mark his farewell from blogging:
Much has been written by commentators about the so-called arrogance of those "liberals", for want of a better word, who wish to impose Western democracy on other cultures (a straw man in itself) and who wish to protect their own liberal democracies from totalitarian and reactionary forces who will use violence to further their cause. In reality, the more arrogant voice of liberalism is that coming from those downplaying the threats, who big up the (non-existent) threat of an authoritarian centrist government (Labour or Conservative). It's as though they believe that democracy is some sort of natural condition, not susceptible to attack or degradation. That it exists in some other parallel universe, never at threat from external forces in the world.And also:
Politicians are attacked for providing answers, yet the media do not create the space for sensible public debate in the game of cat and mouse they play. It isn't just the media either, it is a wider malaise and disenchantment within the political class - and by that I mean in the very broad sense of all those who actually pay any attention to politics. Has there ever been a time before when there have been so many people utterly unhinged about contemporary politics?Read it all, it's intelligent blogging.
Labels: media, Nihilism, Politicians
Idiots for Labour, who devote their time to trawling the blogosphere for examples of inane, poorly-thought-through, and downright illogical comment from our own side, are asking readers to help track down dodgy and embarrassing articles, and submit them via email.
The Government's lack of logic needs to be relentlessly attacked.He questions the Government's lack of logic and, in order to demonstrate that lack, takes a logical leap from an uncontroversial premise to a possible conclusion that is about as controversial as one could be, but also the most convenient for his own argument. The very next paragraph probably tied Lee in knots, forcing him to leave it in limbo:
Why should Britain need an updated deterrent unless it plans to provoke attack by joining in future American-led acts of aggression ? [...]
Name one enemy, against whom a Trident update would be a deterrent, who has plans to attack Britain, given indications of such a desire, would have the incentive to do so, and would be crazy enough to actually attack given the devastating consequences of such stupidity.He's having his cake and eating it: allowing himself the luxury of arguing against the Trident update, 'reinforcing' his argument with a conclusion that could only come from having it. Either way, given that supporters of the Trident update want nuclear attacks on the UK to be deterred, and don't particularly care by what mechanism this happens, Lee has provided a very good point in support of the upgraders. We now leave the world of logic, as the descent into lunacy is breathtakingly sudden:
Why should any erstwhile enemy of the UK believe government claims that the upgrade is purely for deterrent purposes ?Iranian TV sure must be compulsive viewing.
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And why should an erstwhile enemey (sic) believe a government that is lock-step with a bunch of crazed loonies across the pond who frequently announce that their intention of using their nuclear weapons as a first strike, pre-emptive measure ?
All the more reason to ensure that the Blairites dont remain in charge of the Party, and if they do, that they lose the next election.Maybe thinking that someone who posts at Compass, and refers to "the Party", is probably from a Labour background was an assumption too far, but, no, I'm confident it's within Idiots for Labour's remit to fisk this chap ruthlessly. It is a charming idea that somehow "the Blairites" could lose, and yet not the Party, but I fear electoral rules are quite strict on this kind of thing. Anyone who fancies challenging those at the top needs to organise around a sensible alternative - Lee's approach is just a distraction.
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