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Deputy Leadership thoughts - 11 comments

I mentioned earlier that I hadn't been enthused by the deputy leadership election/campaigns, and was wondering if there was any way at all I could use my vote positively.

For a time, I convinced myself that Jon Cruddas was the way to go:
  • He gives the impression of wanting the job most.
  • Introducing Jon will allow his deputy leadership rivals to concentrate on their existing ministerial briefs: International Development is too important for Hilary Benn to be shifted onto party business.
But there were problems, too:
  • His apparent support for BME shortlists for parliamentary selections (discussed to death here).
  • His position over Iraq:
    "I saw the case for removing a tyrant who was a threat because of his possession of weapons of mass destruction and who had already used them against his own people. [...] I now state unequivocally that I was wrong, not only over the original premise but also on account of the consequences since [...]"
  • His support for Venezuelan President Chávez's shutting-down of a politically hostile TV station.
Perhaps these are his own personal views, that wouldn't affect his commitment to rebuilding our broad Labour Party, but as other people seem to be happy to back him on the basis of those same views, I think I'm entitled to say: (a) that I don't agree; and (b) that they don't indicate a sufficiently consistent (for me) commitment to democratic and pluralist principles.

A common premise is that the decline in Labour's vote/membership/campaign ability is a consequence of unpopular policies. If so, our new deputy leader must presumably either (a) have the ability to use his knowledge and influence to alter those policy outputs; (b) to motivate members and voters, persuading them that the policies are sound (or, perhaps, to hang on long enough for them change more dramatically) - 'reinvigorating' them, if you will; or else (c) to instigate some kind of organisational/managerial reform to make the figures look better with much the same policies. I don't know what the answer is, but if a deputy leader is to make a difference, they can hardly come in with very high hopes of single-handedly fixing (a).

And yet my brief recruitment experience reminded me that I have been more attracted to candidates who were keen and had their own ideas, however different, than to those who appeared reputable, however decent. While not setting specific criteria for success in the deputy leadership role, Cruddas seems happy to have his performance judged. Coming from outside the Cabinet the chances of him 'going native' or disappearing into the system are reduced.

The Cogwriter then popped-up with this thoughtful post:
[...] I shan't even be voting for the candidate who most closely addresses the issues I am worried out - in particular, civil liberties, terrorism and climate change: that is to say, I shan't be voting for the person who has suddenly and - for me, quite surprisingly - almost become my political soul mate.

No. In a world where truth has been magically bent by wordsmiths as artful as any Beckham, I shall simply be voting for the candidate I think can make the Labour Party work as a campaigning machine again.

For if we get that right, everything else will fall into place.

Not through the big bucks or the dirty donations of recent times, but through the volunteering activities of good men and woman.

So whoever you think can do that - vote for them!

So, on the proviso that:
  • Jon Cruddas's strategy does not consist of trying to recast Labour around some kind of off-the-shelf 'left-of-Blair' position that it is perceived will cause supporters to flood back.
  • His strategy recognises that MPs and councillors have a mandate that goes beyond party members.
  • This vote isn't taken to be a referendum or a proxy for any other issue; and most importantly of all:
  • Compass and Ken Livingstone stop sending me gushing emails on Jon's behalf.
My vote will be as follows:
  1. Cruddas
  2. Johnson
And best of luck to the winner!

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11 comments so far...

At 1:48 AM, June 10, 2007, Blogger el Tom said...

Blimey. Not sure If I expected that. You're right that his take on foreign policy doen't match yours, and I think with regard to that, I would probably put you and JC on opposite sides of myself.

However, it's not everything one should really be concerned about in a deputy PM; in this epoch, at least. Probably the most involved any DPM will become in foreign policy is one cabinet vote.

With regard to your provisions:

"Jon Cruddas's strategy does not consist of trying to recast Labour around some kind of off-the-shelf 'left-of-Blair' position that it is perceived will cause supporters to flood back."

I think the idea is that we're less antagonistic. Doesn't necessarily imply that they have to be 'left of blair' though. I think that we can do more to reach out to our 'core' (accepting the dodginess, like 'marginal', or the term), and more left wing voters (yes, many do exist; never enough to win, but certainly enough to lose) without sacrificing the center, if we're just more imaginitive.

So it's more about being open to ideas and prepared to consider them on merit, wherever they come from. Presumably except Nick Griffin. ;o)

Example: Jon backs ID cards on migration grounds, while supporting an amnesty for long term resident illegal immigrants.

"His strategy recognises that MPs and councillors have a mandate that goes beyond party members."

Indeed.


"This vote isn't taken to be a referendum or a proxy for any other issue;"

It's a referendum on how we want to orgnanise and build. That's it.

"and most importantly of all:
Compass and Ken Livingstone stop sending me gushing emails on Jon's behalf."

Is it the fact that they're being sent, or who's sending them?

Either way, feel free to unsubscribe.

:op

   
At 8:38 AM, June 11, 2007, Blogger Benjamin said...

There are some people in the Labour Party who are trying to paint Cruddas as some sort of hard leftist, but that is simply not true if you look at his voting record. He's also backed by that consummate New Labour inside Tom Watson. There is no way taht chap would back a raving leftist. All I can say if the New Labour headbanger tendency really think Cruddas is going to scare the horses, then the horses must be vert timid creatures indeed.

   
At 8:44 AM, June 11, 2007, Blogger Benjamin said...

Vote for Cruddas. I've been following the campaign (although I can't vote.) I've been relatively impressed by his responses to questions: pretty straight forward, nuts and bolts sort of stuff.

   
At 2:25 PM, June 11, 2007, Blogger Stephen Newton said...

Whoa! You’re right to call Cruddas on Iraq. But the throwaway remark on Venezuela does you no credit. We’re not talking about a South American version of Fox TV (which wouldn’t be tolerated in the UK) but a persistent campaign for the violent overthrow of a democratically elected government in a country (and region) with a history of dictatorship and extreme political violence.

It is important that a government’s political opponents are allowed to put their case without fear of violent intimidation. But governments should be shown the same courtesy in return.

   
At 3:25 PM, June 11, 2007, Blogger Bloggers4Labour said...

[Benjamin] There are some people in the Labour Party who are trying to paint Cruddas as some sort of hard leftist, but that is simply not true if you look at his voting record.

I've got nothing against 'hard' leftism in general, just the British kind that can't see beyond pumping up the public sector. I'd listen with interest to anyone who started a debate about mutualism, or shutting down the *international* arms trade, for example.

[Stephen] ...a persistent campaign for the violent overthrow of a democratically elected government in a country (and region) with a history of dictatorship and extreme political violence.

That's not quite what I heard. Either way, if there's a problem, let an independent broadcasting committee judge - with a liberal outlook. Chavez should have gone through hoops to ensure this didn't look like political revenge/a warning to his opponents. As the Economist said, having a democratic mandate and promoting pluralism are not the same: a healthy democracy requires both.

This is the kind of gesture that someone like Ken would make (and someone like Benn would say just the right thing on), and it's just unnecessary for Jon to get involved.

   
At 8:25 PM, June 11, 2007, Blogger Neil Harding said...

Hi Andrew - who would have thought it? Me and you both think Johnson and Cruddas are the best candidates. At the moment I have plumped for Johnson 1st and Cruddas 2nd because I can see that Johnson is onside on most issues but he is playing a cannier game at the moment - I believe he will have more influence on Brown than Cruddas - who might just end up being ignored. I have no problem with Cruddas's views on Chavez as I support Chavez - he is under tremendous provocation by a undemocratic right-wing cabal who own most of the TV stations. As far as I can tell the TV station in question lost its franchise for not meeting its quality criteria not because of its oposition to Chavez - the media are mainly hostile to Chavez - it is freer than the media here would be under a Tory government.

Just want to mention to all those voting in the deputy contest that to get full value out of your vote rank ALL the candidates otherwise you are saying you have no preference at all among the candidates you have not ranked - this could be crucial in allowing some candidates through.

   
At 9:00 PM, June 11, 2007, Blogger Danivon said...

Surely there's no point ranking a 6th candidate? When it's down to the last two you will have by default been included in one pile already, so the last preference won't be used.

   
At 10:38 PM, June 11, 2007, Blogger Bloggers4Labour said...

[Neil] who would have thought it? Me and you both think Johnson and Cruddas are the best candidates.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't vote Cruddas because I thought he was the 'best' all-round, but because I felt he's probably the best fit for the role on offer. I mean, Benn is very impressive, thoughtful, and sensible, and with any luck he'll be PM at some point in the future. Cruddas, however, should be able to apply himself single-mindedly to the deputy role.

   
At 12:47 PM, June 13, 2007, Blogger Rhoderick said...

Correction: Pres. Chavez is not shutting down a TV station, the Congress appointed panel of press standards isn't renewing the license.

   
At 1:33 PM, June 13, 2007, Blogger Bloggers4Labour said...

"I didn't kill him, I merely took away his air supply"

   
At 4:12 AM, June 30, 2007, Blogger wozza said...

jumping in late here - but a little perspective - the TV station that did not have it's liscence renewed was openly in support of the armed coup that tried to overthrow the internationally recognised democratically elected president.

If you were president - and a television station announced it's support for an act of high treason.......... pop quiz - what do you do?.

Chavez let the liscence expire after the oxygen for the coup burned out - they did not live up to any sort of objective standards of journaism and the liscence was not renewed.

Don't get me wrong - i'm not saying for a minute that there isn't pro Chavez toadying, but supporting a foreign backed armed coup -as a broadcaster, on public airwaves isn't cricket

   

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