Labour: activism, democracy, MPs, and experts - 8 comments
I didn't get time to post this at the weekend, but hopefully people haven't got bored, or have moved their attention over to even weightier issues...
The deaths of Robin Cook and Mo Mowlam have focussed Paul Anderson's mind on the generation of Labour politicians from which both spring: their mortality, and who (if anyone) is following in their footsteps:
No fewer than 19 of the 23 members of the cabinet today are, like Cook and Mowlam, in their fifties, born in the first postwar decade, brought up on the welfare state and the Beatles and the Stones and that revolution stuff. Perhaps most importantly they were formed politically by the implosion of the Labour Party in the wake of the 1979 defeat by Margaret Thatcher.And goes on to question whether the Party has.
... But parties need to rejuvenate themselves, and Labour is going to find it difficult to do it, just as the Tories have since the late 1980s. Most of the PLP is of the same generation as the cabinet. There has been little turnover of personnel in the past couple of elections, and there are few undiscovered stars. A handful of old-stager MPs might retire next time just as they did in 2001 and 2005. But the party in the country is hardly brimming with enthusiastic activists in their twenties and thirties:the replacements for retiring MPs are likely to be uninspiring apparatchiks, just as they have been for the past decade or more.Spirit of 1976, writing for the Drink Soaked Trots, is less than optimistic:
I keep getting asked by my comrades what interests young people in politics... If I'm feeling honest, I generally reply that what they're interested in is what the Liberal Democrats have to say. Young, independent-minded, talented individuals just aren't getting involved with Labour politics ... My guess is that come the next election Labour's activist base will be pretty much gone, the progressive vote will be hopelessly split between a dried-up Labour Party and a resurgent Liberal Democrats, and the Tories will be back in power.I'm sure everyone who's had a position within their local CLP is well-used to talking about membership strategies and "engaging" with young people. I can't say I've come across anything that's really worked. Thing is, what is there for activists to do? What are the pressing needs of local people and how are you helping them by sitting in a room above a pub, talking about £50 party fundraisers?
You can socialise; you can try to talk about politics (but generally not in meetings, only in the pub afterwards with a small subset of members closest to your age, and with the leadership having already left). You can pencil yourself in for the next meeting, seven Wednesday evenings hence, but without elections in the offing, what actually is there to do? It's not as if it's actually the responsibility of all Labour Party members to work for their community, doing good deeds, maintaining the social fabric, or 'spreading socialism'.
Perhaps this is an answer: encouraging Labour members to build their confidence and engage with real people by encouraging them to put Labour values into practice. Perhaps this could be done alongside local Labour councillors, where present. Not carefully thought-out, but perhaps it's more sustainable than trying to bribe young, politically-minded people to turn up to meetings with the promise of socials and quiz nights, then fail to deliver any actual politics.
I can't say party democracy is a big issue for me. Well, not as much as it "should be". At the last count I have, I think, no fewer than four positions within the local CLP (one or two of them jointly). Few people in the CLP probably realise this, and I suspect only a few would notice if I wasn't carrying them out satisfactorily. That's a recipe for disaster in any organisation. With enough positions for most people in a branch to have one, and with incumbency or apparent enthusiasm the only qualifications, respect for some posts can only be weakened. Under these conditions, local activism can merely seem a glamourous term for a self-established and self-perpetuating bureaucracy: a gravy-train of votes, committees, and conferences.
Perhaps it's unfair to add in the Fabians as yet another opportunity for Labour types to warm a few conference-room chairs without ever having to meet a radically different view, it's just that the people I've met who've associated with the Fabians seem to spend an inordinate amount of time at 'events'. It seems even 30-year-olds count as 'Young Fabians' : I'll let you draw your own conclusion from that.
Antonia has also picked up on these issues:
That relentless towing of the line at university, in the fetid atmosphere of national student politics, through a liberal-ish succesion of two or three jobs working for MPs / think tanks / trade unions / non-offensive NGOs / as a political advisor or SpAd, seems to produce identikit young politicos, with carefully-cultivated quirks and nice shoes, a regional accent, strong links to an area outside their current domicile of London, maybe a coke habit fastidiously concealed, far more interested in process than issues, and hung up on the proximity of power.I have to say I've only limited experience of student politics: I wasn't involved with a student Labour Club until my fourth year of University (I had even gone so far as to opt-out of NUS), and my experience thereafter was not encouraging. I like to think there would have been more activity and more enthusiasm if I had got involved earlier (I mean, Labour wasn't in power then, so we must have been up for it). I'm sure I'd have acquired "contacts", but then Antonia's far from being alone in her view.
One thing I would say in defence of the young politico is that perhaps they're more likely than the horny-handed son of the soil to have a knowledge of politics, economics, and philosophy, these surely being essential for anyone who wants to understand contemporary issues and ideologies, as well as what works, what has failed, and what is practical. With this knowledge it should be easier (in principle) for an MP to be independent, question the party line, and go beyond what they read in the newspapers or see on TV.
This does matter. It does seem that the Left has lost the ability to talk about, for example, economics. Perhaps the UK's macroeconomic performance (i.e. headline unemployment figures; interest rates; inflation; etc.) has just been so much better than Labour people dared to dream that they can only latch onto what seems to be working. Quite what we'd do if we inherited a ruined economy from the Conservatives, I don't know. Even if there's no immediate possibility of radical change, it's important to at least know about economic theory so that, for example, contemporary issues like the flat tax can be discussed, and not left to conservatives.
Final twist: perhaps it's too much to hope that MPs can be on the one hand the great thinkers of the age, while on the other, committed workers on behalf of their constituents. In the latter case, I doubt that the 'ability' (in the cloying sense the media uses it) of an MP helps the constituent one iota. Perhaps a solution would be two elected chambers. One for thinkers, orators, and experts; the other, for problem-solvers, and community representatives. The former decides policy and strategy, the latter implementation, and the satisfaction of constituents' needs.
Anyway, I'm out of time, so that's it for now.









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People might be forgetting that we won big in '97 and '01; anyone with ambitions to make it to Westminster (and there are still plenty of those) were wasting their time with Labour in those years. In the '90s, you could go from joining the party to being an MP in a simply incredibly short period of time. In '97, I could count five close friends all of whom wanted to take on a political career with Labour; all of these changed their minds as the election ensured that every possibly conceivable winnable seat had already gone. Add to that the pernicious effect of the anti-war movement - who wants to even pretend they agree with Michael Moore? - and it might become clearer that the current "lack" of young activists has more to it than simple lack of interest.
I did bits of Antonia's career path (not the regional accent, coke habit, or the ambition to become an MP) and saw some of the people she's on about. But maybe I was lucky in that I never worked for a fashionable MP and so saw other things as well. I saw young people with a sense of wanting to serve, who enjoyed the romantic adventure of the struggle to power, and felt they were tangibly involved in helping to deliver on something that would make the lives of millions of working people better.
But, those days are gone, and we need a new approach to attracting new activists; young or old. I'm not sure I've got a clue what the approach should be, but I suspect it needs a much looser working arrangement than the 1990s version.
When it comes to attracting new members, I don't think we can get away without answering the question, "so what do we actually get to do?"
In the run-up to elections, especially when Labour are on the up, people will "rally to the flag" in large numbers, but at other times there isn't an obvious reason for people to participate. Young people often want to talk/learn about national politics, when in reality the kinds of things heard at Labour meetings concern Tory councillors opposing changes to a roundabout, traffic re-routing, etc., rather than a clash of ideologies.
So, while it's great to attract new members, if they've got bored (resentful, even) and gone to ground by the time the CLP wants them to help deliver leaflets at election time, we've gained nothing.
Someone needs to demonstrate to members what local activism really is, and I should think Councillors are the best people to do this. Perhaps they should have a staff of local members (unpaid), rather like an MP has? I'm sure that would get members interested.
Whenever I have read or listened to people talking about encouraging young people to join Labour the only group referred to are students. This is not the only group of young people we should be reaching out to there are many more young people who are not uni students and as such have not had to put up with the backwards phenomenon called student politics. The only people who have an interest in student politics are students and this interest lasts as long as they are students. Once they graduate their minds move to other issues. Within the student population itself there are few who are interested in other issues through groups like Amnesty (if you are at uni look at the membership numbers of groups like Amnesty and compare it to the whole student population: you will see a small percentage of students actually involved in NGOs).
On top of this many students also leave the area they went to uni when they graduate and so the CLP will lose them as members. However there exist young people out of uni which need attention.
I agree that in the run up to elections the Labour members are heavily relied upon, and that is how they remain until the next election is called, unless there are leaflets to get out. I also agree that we need to develop local activism to get members feeling like they are apart of the party and to use this activism to generate new membership (which does not need to be just young people).
Councillors can help do this, but so can MPs as well as AMs etc where they exist. The group of elected reps should be willing to get involved at a grassroots level if only to ensure they have a "small army" for the election time. This solves one part of the problem. The second part is not as easy to solve.
There is no point to local activism unless it is going to be meaningful. Should a local CLP go out and campaign for the building of a roundabout? Or to stop a new building be developed on the corner of the street? I think not. Such activities would do very little to encourage people to join (and would probably dissuade current members as well). I currently work for an AM (although I do not want to be an elected representative) and the issues which have arisen tend to bring all the people in the local area out together to campaign on the issue and therefore no party political bias/conflicts occur. This to is going to damage any attempts at local activism.
I do not know how we can get around these final issues, but I think it is important for local, elected labour reps as well as CLP execs and current members to just start trying things, even if its just trial and error and hopefully this will lead the party to finding ways of reigniting local activism as well as generating membership.
Bit concerned about your argument for a bicameral system such that one chamber "decides policy and strategy, ... [the other]implementation, and the satisfaction of constituents' needs."
The split between people who know what they're talking about in terms of economic and social policy, by virtue of experiencing it at the receiving end, and people who make decisions about that, was arguably one the Labour Party was set up to destroy, not to perpetuate...
Just an idea, tamanou, and probably not one that's entirely compatible with democratic principles... I was also, of course, forgetting Select Committees.
I was just wondering whether we can expect MPs to be "ordinary" people, focussed on their constituents, while also having enough knowledge that they needn't be dependent on the view of Ministers, civil servants, and government advisers, for judging a particular issue. Whenever any government which wins a vote in Parliament, some of that majority will comprise people who have seen the evidence, drawn their own conclusion, and satisfied themselves that the proposal is a good one, while others will vote, not so much out of loyalty, but because they trust the Minister's judgement in general, even though they don't fully understand the proposal or its ramifications.
I suspect that on economic issues (not that we really have a macroeconomic policy...) most Labour MPs would be in the second group.
An alternative view on activists might be that, actually, there's no need for them. I'm thinking more of the Conservative approach here. Provided people loyally volunteer at election time, perhaps there's no point in committees, meetings, or conferences, for there simply isn't enough "politics" to spread across 200,000-400,000 people, 52 weeks a year, unless we create it ourselves with these local party hierarchies.
Perhaps we should forget about meetings and encourage members to help Councillors with case-work, or go out into the community and do 'good deeds', like cleaning graffiti, working for charities, or starting up clubs and societies off our own backs?
Interesting stuff. I suppose we are the next generation that is supposed to make this better.
It is very worrying. We are not in as bad a shape as the Tories but we shouldn't let that console us because their average aged member is in their sixties (which is only 10 years more than us).
B4L, after attending countless meetings with their tedious local issues and unexplained jargon and procedure, I was thinking the same as you. Shouldn't we be outside doing something useful like picking up litter etc.. At least we'd probably get some attention from the public then. I got the feeling I was viewed more as a threat than a welcome addition when I joined the party 2 years ago. A lot of members like the small numbers, it keeps things simple for them. As party democracy has been mostly removed, its not surprising so many members have deserted parties.
All is not lost though. People are interested in politics and activism, its just the main party politics has been strangled to death by careerists and the media. People have looked elsewhere. Single issue campaigns and the minor parties have become their fix.
At the end of the day though, there is no getting away from the fact that if you want to be active in a political party you have got to 'enjoy' the mundane local issues as well as the more enjoyable national stuff.
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